In an interview with P. Volkov for the portal ukraina.ru, the Russian intellectual and advisor to the president expressed his strong belief that in order to survive Russia must occupy half of Ukraine and the Russian army must reach Hungary and Poland Vladimir Putin, Alexander Dugin.
In fact, he believes that, helped by the crisis in Israel, Russia should expand again into the territories of Novorossiya, that is, become an empire again, rejecting both capitalism and the existing socialism of the Bolsheviks.
In particular, according to Dugin, the Palestinian conflict has seriously changed the geopolitical situation. By that time Ukraine had huge support, Russia was at war with NATO. However, now new dangers have emerged for the West, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iran, and there is also Taiwan. Therefore, Ukraine ceased to be the only front in the struggle of the unipolar Western world against the multipolar one.
“New battle lines are emerging and the issue of Ukraine is shifting from the exclusive foreground to the background,” the political philosopher said.
Regarding the president of Ukraine, Dugin said that “Zelensky is in a very difficult position. When a country is at war, it is usually ruled by a dictator, a person who, due to historical circumstances, is forced to concentrate all power in his hands – there is nothing special about this. But in the West, the continuous holding of elections, the continuous reproduction of electoral cycles is, in a sense, the most important tool. They consider it necessary to constantly change leaders so that there is no feeling of impunity. So this idea of postponing the elections, seemingly agreed upon by Zelensky with the West, actually works against him.
Zelensky is tired: at first he made people laugh like a clown, then he spilled their blood, he used all methods to attract attention, now he has nothing to amaze, surprise and inspire.”
Russia will win…
Dugin, during the interview, expressed his strong belief that Russia has already won. Asked how he knows this, he said that victory is necessary for all of Ukraine, for the liberation of Novorossiya. However, a small victory, which will not really be a victory, can be considered the annexation of the four regions that Russia now controls.
In Dugin’s opinion, this is not even…. minimal, but “failure and defeat in the eyes of our society, which has already shed so much blood.” If half of Ukraine, with Odesa, Nikolaev, Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, perhaps with Sumy and Chernigov, pass into Russian territory, that will be a victory.
Putin’s Russian adviser then asked, “What do we do next?” As he said, “if we consider that we liberated Ukraine before Lviv, what will we offer them afterwards? We have to offer something. But this is not a matter of today. The war will be so difficult and long that we will have time to think about it. I am absolutely convinced that there is no other way out than the Empire and Orthodoxy, a strong global pole with the preservation of classical culture and the classical worldview, in contrast to the modern degenerate West.”
But until our boots land on the border with Poland and Hungary, it is futile to talk about economics and ideology – no one will listen to us. Only after an overwhelming military Victory will they take what we say seriously. If we defeat the West in Ukraine, then we confirm by actions that we are a dominant pole, the pole of a multipolar world. If not, we’re done. We will disappear from history.”
The future…
According to Dugin, “everything starts with geopolitics. To become an Empire, as Brezinsky said, Russia must control Ukraine. Geopolitics is linked to ideology: the more we perceive ourselves as sovereign, the more we will turn to our roots, to our attitudes, which we abandoned especially 100 years ago, because of the Bolsheviks.
For 100 years, we actually betrayed ourselves, first abandoning religion, Orthodoxy, the Tsar, and then abandoning social justice, supporting a completely special Soviet culture. We betrayed the Empire, we betrayed the Russian world, we betrayed our identity, and now we must restore it.
The empire that we will build as Ukraine is liberated must have a completely independent ideological, political, social structure, which will be based on various stages of Russian history. There will be elements of Orthodoxy and supreme authority, and necessarily social justice – during the Soviet period this was the main demand of the Russian people and other peoples of Russia.
There will be no capitalism. Capitalism is an Anglo-Saxon Western model that destroys everything.
Capitalism is not just a market society, but a market society, where everything is sold, where everything is bought, where there is only one class – the bourgeoisie. Capitalism is the essence of what we are fighting for. As is the materialism of communism. We must return to ourselves, because the return to God is not a return to the past, it is a return to the eternal.
This devil with whom we are fighting today in Avdeevka, in Kherson, in Bakhmut, believes that there is no eternity. And we are the soldiers of eternity.”



